Ummmm if moisturizers are only making it worse then what are we to do??!!

Ummmm if moisturizers are only making it worse then what are we to do??!!

And the other stuff i.e. IPL and stuff also reduce the cell's ability? So then what?

Ok so like using lotion on your body everyday is BAD???
The only moisturizers I use on my face are undereye cream...I was blessed with good skin and don't use anything else.

Now I'm confused.....

Great...leave us hanging...

So if moisturizers are bad - what helps the skin's cells function?

This guy sounds like a quack to me. He's probably just pushing is own special line of "not moisturizer" moisturizer.

while i can always appreciate a new point of view, i think to post a snippet of a misleading article really sucks. i love this site, i frequent bella and friends daily. but come on... let's get the whole story out there.

This seems like misinformation to me.

I've always moisturized my entire body... I'm 20 with the skin of a 10 year old... haha.. my facial skin is beautiful... i guess it can't be true for all people...

This doesn't make sense to me either. If moisturizer is bad for your skin, then why do (good) moisturizers improve the appearance and softness of your skin over time? What about wearing sunscreen everyday, is that bad too? It's like the lip balm theory - wearing lip balm reduces your lips ability to retain moisture. I'm not convinced any of this is true.

What the heck?

I don't get it. What are we supposed to do if moisturizers are bad. I don't really buy it.

I GIVE UP!!!!!!!!

What?

It is kind of like the little snippets of news you get throughout the evening:

"Find out why you may be in risk of dying TONIGHT! Tune in for News at 10 on your local NBC station to find out why!"

um, if he's so against moisturizers...then why does he sell them on his website?
http://www.zoskinhealth.com/shop/facial/dailyrenewalcreme

unless he's being misquoted - AHA's and other acids can cause premature ageing if you're exposed to the sun afterwards; and shouldn't be used on younger/more sensitive skin anyway.

Hah. Quack alert. Look at this guy's website.
He's the last person i'd trust my skin to.

seriously, wtf. i'm about ready to go postal on all of these dermatologists that are telling me all sorts of things i need or dont need for my skin....ughhhhh eff

More to come from the interview, promise! I personally like moisturizers, but you know, I report, you decide.

ugh.why did i read this.... i was confused on which moisturizer i should use and now ! this

I'm going to have to call b.s. on this one too. My mom is 55, has been using Ponds and Oil of Olay for YEARS, and her skin is FLAWLESS. She has a couple of wrinkles under her eyes when she smiles, but that's it.

idk...I think it really just has to do with genetics and how much time a person takesout of their day to take care of their skin.

I'll definitely be waiting for part 2, but his claim about moisturizers seems far-fetched. Did he do some sort of study with evidence to back up his claim? Until I read the study, I'll remain skeptical. Obviously, this man hasn't experienced the wind off of Lake Michigan during the winter! Nothing will dry your face out faster.

Whaaat! I'll wait for the rest of this, but this doesn't sound like it is coming from much research. Is he alone in his thinking or are there others? Never read anything similar..

As IF, this guy is full of it! I am not giving up my La Mer daily regiment no matter what!

As crazy as this moisturizer claim sounds I've heard this before! And if you think about it the idea actually makes sense. Your skin naturally provides water and other nutrients for itself and by slapping on a moisturizer you're sending a message to your skin that it doesn't need to produce those ingredients itself and, by doing so, your skin starts to forget what it's purpose is (producing moisture and nutrients for itself) and as a result you become dependent on moisturizers - similar to my addiction to chapstick. I don't think he's saying that they are bad all around, I think that he means that you need to use one that does more than replace your normal skin purpose (like one that has SPF or reduces wrinkles etc).

This makes sense to me! My friends father is a derm and has told her many times that using moisturizers as part of her daily beauty routine is unnecessary and CAN - as this guy says cause premature aging

idk this is so confusing. i see both sides but i don't really understand. can we get more info?????

My skin's so dry I have to use moisturizer! What to do?

this guys is NUtS!!!
hahaha.
i never used eye cream
but since i started using it
my makeup look better, and
the skin is great, and
my cream regimen i'll never
stop doing it, it makes
it look great.

Yeah, that doesn't sound right at all.

I don't believe that at all.

This sounds very interesting!

He may have a point. If he is saying that our skin gets used to these treatments and starts to become less active than it normally is that could be a possibility. But environmental factors, UV rays, free radicals, and stress tend to leave their imprint on the skin. What does he suggest that we should do to stop these factors from aging our skin?

More evidence is needed in order to make his study concrete. And unless the FDA or a public recall of all skin moisturizers and treatments are underway I'll continue using my moisturizer.

Ok well way to leave us hanging. how else am i suppose keep my skin soft?

I think what he means is that people shouldn't use moisturizers in excess. Most people don't need it everyday, so the cells might become "lazy" because they don't have to do any work. I have good skin without doing practicly anything, and dermatologists always recomend keeping it that way. If you don't need it don't use it.

ummm, my skin is already lazy and if I don't moisturize after washing, it will be dry tight and flaky. Am I supposed to walk around looking crusty all day or should I just stop washing my face?

yah, what? Why would your skin get "lazy"? Cells grow, replicate and die. They don't think, go on vacation or sit around watching soap operas.

ckeller825: My grandma used Ponds too and everyone thinks she's my mom. She's really beautiful and I'll follow her advise before this guys any day!

Wuuuuuh??
Let's do this the scientific way. Pubmed, go!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18070204
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17941363
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15492432

This guy has no publications btw, and finding anything related to moisturizers causing aging hasn't had any results.

Everything I've read/watched over the past few months has talked about the benefits of moisturizers, so this seems odd and out of nowhere... is there any proof/studies to his claims? (I didnt know much at all about skincare until like last december honestly!! so everything ive read is recent stuff)

# 39: If you do something the scientific way, you should give Google scholar a try (http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=zein+obagi&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search), and while there's not much, this guy has published with Blackwell and Springer.

He holds a patent on healing damaged skin. As the USPTO also grants patents on things similar places in other parts of the world reject, like pieces of software code, or on human DNA, it's not an indication of quality or if his process is actually effective.

This doesn't say anything about his qualifications, and I'm always skeptical if someone sells stuff on his own premises, but just because someone is in the minority, it doesn't necessarily mean he's a total quack.

I'll wait and see what Bella comes up with next, although I do hope we'll get the whole story then, and not just several more installments of snippets.

Whatever crazy doctor guy, I'm still going to use my facial moisturizer. I'd rather not look like an alligator with dry skin.

Bella, you say "more to come" a lot, but it happen rarely. So please do remember to elaborate and soooooon...

Have a look at this girls:

"Are Moisturizers Beneficial?

Moisturizers are useful for dry skin. The mechanism of action is to prevent the natural oils and water within the skin from escaping ; they do not put moisture into the skin. They give the skin a smooth, soft texture and, plumps up the fine wrinkles making them less obvious.

Chances are you will require a moisturizer at one time or another. Unless you have unusually dry skin, however, the use of a moisturizer should not necessarily become part of your daily routine. If moisturizers are used too often they can prevent the normal sloughing off of the top layer of dead skin cells. This gives the appearance of dryness and falsely induces the individual to use more moisturizer. This moisturizer induced dryness is called cosmetic seborrhea. If the problem persists, the skin becomes inflamed, and scaly patches form."

Allytta, just send me a PM and tell me what you've been missing. I'm happy to work with you!

OK, so NOW WHAT?!?!? And if Skin care - creams, etc. are BAD for us, why is there a whole "OBAGI" skin care line, w/MOISTURIZERS, etc ----sold in Dermatologists offices, no less. And VERY expensive, I might add!!!

if he says moisturizers slow cell re-growth...which i am pretty sure is not widely believed among dermatologists, i do know that antioxidants, such as vitamin c, applied to the skin and products like retin-a actually help speed up cell turnover, which is fantastic for acne prone skin and wrinkles. plus don't forget spf daily!

Obagi has his own HIGH priced skin care line and it's sold mostly in Plastic surgeon's offices... Of course he's going to tell you not to use less costly off the shelf skin care remedies... Don't listen to him... Do what works best for you...

Bella, I am dying to hear more!!! When is the next installment?

What the Heck kind of an article is that? So what are we to do? Use moisturizers every other day, once a week, monthly, etc.?